Comments for Riva Method http://rivamethod.wordpress.com A website for the community of users of the Riva business process management method Mon, 01 Dec 2008 08:45:23 +0000 http://wordpress.com/ hourly 1 Comment on Some recommended books by Steve Yates http://rivamethod.wordpress.com/2008/05/16/some-recommended-books/#comment-26 Steve Yates Mon, 01 Dec 2008 08:45:23 +0000 http://rivamethod.wordpress.com/?p=14#comment-26 Hi David, I have not read this blog for a while but I am interested in your experience of applying lean thinking to the process architecure and units of work in RIVA. I have worked with Martyn who has helped me adopt RIVA into our organisation and I would like to build on this work by applying lean concepts to the RIVA work. Are you able to say more? Hi David,

I have not read this blog for a while but I am interested in your experience of applying lean thinking to the process architecure and units of work in RIVA. I have worked with Martyn who has helped me adopt RIVA into our organisation and I would like to build on this work by applying lean concepts to the RIVA work. Are you able to say more?

]]> Comment on Some recommended books by steveyates1 http://rivamethod.wordpress.com/2008/05/16/some-recommended-books/#comment-23 steveyates1 Sun, 30 Nov 2008 13:15:50 +0000 http://rivamethod.wordpress.com/?p=14#comment-23 David, Sorry not to have been around for a while. I have worked with Martyn in implementing RIVA in my organisation. I would be interested to know more about how you are applying lean thinking using the Process Architecture and UOW diagrams. I would have thought you may have neeed to got RADs to do this? David,

Sorry not to have been around for a while. I have worked with Martyn in implementing RIVA in my organisation. I would be interested to know more about how you are applying lean thinking using the Process Architecture and UOW diagrams. I would have thought you may have neeed to got RADs to do this?

]]> Comment on Some recommended books by David Madigan http://rivamethod.wordpress.com/2008/05/16/some-recommended-books/#comment-17 David Madigan Fri, 20 Jun 2008 08:02:17 +0000 http://rivamethod.wordpress.com/?p=14#comment-17 This is exactly how we are beginning to apply the Riva method. The process architecture diagrams are an excellent tool for looking at the flow of value through an organisation and in particular for ensuring that all work done by an organisation can be connected to value demand. We do however struggle with the distinction between essential and designed units of work. Initially, we tend to take the view that if the organisation feels that the work is essential then we will accept this position. By applying the ideas of Lean Thinking to the resulting unit of work and process architecture diagrams we can then search for and engineer out units of work that on more rigorous analysis no longer appear to be fundamental. Similarly, the unit of work diagrams and process architecture diagrams can be used to determine how much work is created by failure demand and start to understand the root causes of the failure demand to engineer out this non-value adding work. This is exactly how we are beginning to apply the Riva method. The process architecture diagrams are an excellent tool for looking at the flow of value through an organisation and in particular for ensuring that all work done by an organisation can be connected to value demand.
We do however struggle with the distinction between essential and designed units of work. Initially, we tend to take the view that if the organisation feels that the work is essential then we will accept this position. By applying the ideas of Lean Thinking to the resulting unit of work and process architecture diagrams we can then search for and engineer out units of work that on more rigorous analysis no longer appear to be fundamental.
Similarly, the unit of work diagrams and process architecture diagrams can be used to determine how much work is created by failure demand and start to understand the root causes of the failure demand to engineer out this non-value adding work.

]]> Comment on BPM Suites and RIVA by martynould http://rivamethod.wordpress.com/2008/05/16/bpm-suites-and-riva/#comment-15 martynould Fri, 16 May 2008 08:43:21 +0000 http://rivamethod.wordpress.com/?p=13#comment-15 For me, the important thing about Riva is the concepts it uses. They are designed to aid understanding about how our organisations work. The method is designed to exploit those concepts and uses a couple of notations en route. Riva started from the perspective of thinking about the dynamics of a business, and it sticks to that knitting. Much of what is happening elsewhere started in the world of IT and has pushed back into business matters but is naturally in danger of imposing IT concepts and practicalities onto how we think about our businesses. I see that as dangerous. But,, being an even-handed sort of chap, I can can see the attraction of the prospect of applying a single, one-size-fits-all notation across the process spectrum. Martyn For me, the important thing about Riva is the concepts it uses. They are designed to aid understanding about how our organisations work. The method is designed to exploit those concepts and uses a couple of notations en route. Riva started from the perspective of thinking about the dynamics of a business, and it sticks to that knitting. Much of what is happening elsewhere started in the world of IT and has pushed back into business matters but is naturally in danger of imposing IT concepts and practicalities onto how we think about our businesses. I see that as dangerous. But,, being an even-handed sort of chap, I can can see the attraction of the prospect of applying a single, one-size-fits-all notation across the process spectrum.

Martyn

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